Field of Science

The Impending crisis

"If the *..... convention was meeting in an irrational atmosphere, the reason is clear. During the last few years events themselves had been irrational; politics in America could no longer be wholly sane. Here and there, like flickers of angry light before a thunderstorm, there had been bursts of violence, and although political debate continued, the nearness of violence-the reality of it, the mounting threat that it would monstrously grow and drown out all voices-made the debaters shout more loudly and appeal more directly to emotions that made reasonable debate impossible. Men put special meaning on words and phrases, so that what sounded good to one sounded evil to another, and certain slogans took on their own significance and became portentous, streaming in the heated air like banners against the sunset; and even the voices that called for moderation became immoderate. American politicians **..... could do almost anything on earth except sit down and take a reasoned and dispassionate view of their situation."

Alright, 5 points to the person telling me what this passage is referring to.

This paragraph is from one of the books I am currently reading, and I was struck with how this rings true to our current politics. Maybe this is what politics and discourse is universally. Maybe its an American idiosyncrasy, Im not sure. Regardless, it is not effective or meaningful ways to solve problems or protect citizens. This particular passage comes from Bruce Catton's The Coming Fury and describes the Democratic convention in Charleston SC in 1860. There are ramifications to this kind of rhetoric and discourse. In this case, it resulted in 620,000 American lives lost directly and is still the deadliest war in relation to US deaths.

Now despite the whining of a Texas governor, there is no obvious secession or splitting the union along state lines. However, the rhetoric regarding fundamentalist christianity is getting louder and louder. Major "news" outlets espouse the idea that we are a Christian nation in a way that is more than numerical. The military is allowing (by a lack of enforcement) evangelicals to force religion on all troops. The peer pressure and abuse that non-christian kids and adults face is pervasive, but if someone requests that a baby jesus not be on the steps of a state capital building or prayer not be forced upon public school children, its the fucking apocalypse.

Today our debates are centralized around who is more godly, who gets the most oil doused upon them (but not in a running around with my mistress lube kind-of-oil), who may be an atheist (even if they aren't). And if you don't cowtow to overt fundamentalism, you may be fired. But Christians are the persecuted minority and maybe they are sick of it. The most extreme fundamentalists have essentially taken over the Republican party and makes up most of the Tea Bag movement (LOL, I can't tell you how much I laugh when some slick haired 55 year old overweight white guy proudly proclaims they are a teabagger). Anyway, maybe its time (well past time) to wrest discourse back into the realm of reason before we get to a Terrible Swift Sword.


* ..... replaced Democratic
** ..... replaced 1860

Son of a "science" fair

Well I am 3 for 3 in attending the Creationist Homeschooling Science Fair at the Har Mar Mall in Roseville Minnesota. My first year was an eye opening disheartening experience. My second year was like a dull ache that won't go away.

This year was awesome!

Ok, seeing intellectual child abuse in action is not awesome but other aspects helped offset that.

First, the disclaimers.

1.If you happen to be a homeschooler and disagree with the hole I am about to tear the parents of these children, I want to highlight that this was the Creationist Homeschooling Science Fair, not the Homeschooling Science Fair. See that little word creationist means something and it means something important. I wouldn't mention it because its obvious, but clearly some people have a problem with this as seen here.

2. This is not an attack on the children. These parents and the organizations that front them (and use many of them) are the problem, the children are victims. When despots surround themselves with children, to prevent attack most people blame the despot when the children are hurt. Unless you're a homeschooling supporter, then you attack anyone who questions you, your methods, or your beliefs as attacks on the poor little children.

Alright, the short assessment is that like any school science fair the projects range from the good, the bad, and the ugly. I feel pretty good about this comparison since I had attended an evil public school science fair the week before. Except for the devil worship the similarities in projects was about the same.

I showed up when the kids were presenting their projects, although I was running late (see below) and decided to come back later and not ask questions about their work. (Plus, I was somewhat uncomfortable talking with these kids dressed in my gym clothes.) However, I made 2 quick assessments as I scanned the posters. By-and-large the posters were put together extremely well and the kids were well dressed and professional looking.

While I do not mean to joke about the posters, because any science fair (bullshit ones like this being no exception) have some truly hilarious attempts at science. My personally favorite was the student who compared gorillas, orangutans, and people by going to one of the local zoos (Como Zoo, it is a beautiful zoo highly recommended, current donations suggested at a measly $3.00) and making lists. Included in the dissimilar category included No writing, No cars, No jobs (Im assuming these are about the non-human apes), and We take care of them. The conclusion was that we are not descended from a related ancestor since the differences outweigh the similarities. Clearly, gorillas in the wild are more closely related to illiterate people in 1930s America. Another great one was the old music affecting plant growth uncontrolled experiment. Needless to say rock inhibited growth whereas classical promoted growth, which begs the question how does classic rock affect plants or christian rock. It would have been helpful to know the presenters musical preference...

Anyway, the awesome part was meeting and having lunch with a number of like minded people. I enjoy meeting new people and this was no exception. Big shout out to George, Tom, Lynn, Greg (or the guy if I screwed up your name), and others. It was a pleasure and I hope to see you all around at other venues. During these conversations I heard that there are essentially no science fairs in the high schools (although there is a state science fair) and that the state fair has posters on display in the education building, which basically come from the creation science fair...I need to look into this more and see if we can do more to promote science in the high schools/state (and we can).

When I went back to the posters after a nice lunch and tasty malt beverage, one of the organizers came up to talk to me. Actually, she seemed to be primarily interested in the notes I was writing down and was talking to me in order to steal glances at my notes...at least I hope that's what she was trying to steal glances at. The organizer described the process for selecting the best posters, which I found revealing. Not the process itself, but the way she described it. The presenters are judged on their paper (a written paper on their poster), the set up of their poster, their presentation and QandA, and their bible verse. I pointed out that it was a requirement to have a bible verse, so how could it be "scorable." Not surprisingly, the verse had to be appropriate for the project being done, which makes a superficial amount of sense. So if one poster scores lower does that mean there is a better verse? Is there a 65% verse and an 85% verse, too bad you missed the 100% verse? Are the organizers suggesting that every possible science project is rooted in a single perfect bible verse? Does version/edition of said bible effect scoring?

The organizer then told me about their esteemed judges (not my phrase). These were eminent scientists, and by that I mean not scientists. She told me they had someone who walked on the moon. When I mentioned that only 12 men did, and wondered which one it was she back pedaled to someone who worked for NASA. I buy that, but would point out Im certain NASA has a cafeteria. Said judge, likely not a line worker at the cafeteria, but if the organizers are first going with a moonwalker to be someone involved with NASA at the appropriate time, then its not far to include the cafeteria workers as NASA employees along with the rocket scientists. Another judge invented RAM and ROM (doubtful) and they also had some engineers.

Then it hit me. See the judges are not scientists, at least not formally trained scientists, but engineers and technicians. This is not to disparage engineers and technicians, I am neither and cannot do their jobs. But they are not scientists and cannot do mine. Yes, there are exceptions and yes in some minor way I do do some engineering and engineers do do some science. But its different. Engineers are trying to solve immediate problems using available resources and technologies. Scientists are trying to learn more about the universe, which is often geared towards a problem, but may not solve it. Scientists and engineers have overlapping spheres of expertise and work together frequently, but they are not the same. An anesthesiologist and a brain surgeon have some profound similarities in training and often work together, but I don't want one doing to the job of the other.

And this highlights one of the main problems with society's understanding and expectations of science. Most people seem to view science as engineering. Its a tool to solve some specific problem, its the hammer to cure cancer, its the scalpel of job creation. Its just a tool. Well, in a way I agree. Its a tool, a tool to understand the universe in the most accurate way available. Its not a tool to confirm your particular bias (although it may fortuitously). Science will not confirm that children should be baptized at birth and that those who think baptism should only occur upon adulthood should be burnt at the stake. Nope science will tell you about reality. The problem with tools, is that if you aren't trained and don't know what you're doing, you may cut your fucking hand off. Dont blame science because bats aren't birds, because T rex went extinct millions of years ago, and because people are good who have never heard of your little god.

(I would like to point out that the "son of a science fair" came after the "bride of a science fair," and thus represents the progeny of a wholesome union.)

What I Read (2009)

In reverse order
(Grade A-F, no E's) Title-Author Additional thoughts


B- The Last Continent by Terry Pratchett My least favorite Pratchett to date, but still quite good. Making fun of academicians and evolution all in one fell swoop.

F Lost City of the Jedi by Paul Davids and Hollace Davids Weak, but the boy loves Star Wars

D Star Wars: the Phantom Menace by Henry Gilroy, Rodolfo Damaggio, Al Williamson

B- Under the Dome by Stephen King Pretty compelling story, end was a bit weak, but these kinds of stories are basically impossible to end well IMHO.

F Young Jedi Knights by Kevin J. Anderson and Rebecca Moesta Ugh, Part II

C+ 1421 The Year China Discovered America by Gavin Menzies Thought provoking book, although I think Menzies overstates the case a bit.

D The Mark on the Door by Franklin W. Dixon

B+ Mort by Terry Pratchett :)

C Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone by J.K. Rawling A reread for the boy

C+ Law of Nines by Terry Goodkind Love me some Goodkind, took quite awhile before I the tie in with the Sword of Truth series

B- Devices and Desires by K.J. Parker

A Your Inner Fish by Neil Shubin Must read science book, ties in the actual doing of science with the knowledge generated

D The Emerald City of Oz by Frank Baum

A- Reaper Man by Terry Pratchett :)x2

A+ God's Problem by Bart D. Ehrman Favorite book of the year!!!

C+ Human Natures by Paul R. Ehrlich

D Footprints Under the Window by Franklin W. Dixon

A Small Gods by Terry Pratchett Funniest Pratchett book to date!!

B The Subtle Knife by Philip Pullman

B Scarlet by Stephen Lawhead

B- Junk Science by Dan Agin

B+ Hood by Stephen Lawhead A good reworking of Robin Hood.

D While the Clock Ticked by Franklin W. Dixon

B Making Money by Terry Pratchett My first Pratchett....only 3x more to go

C Marlfox by Brian Jacques

Suffering: Does god help?

One thing that is a "problem" we all deal with is the problem of suffering. This is not a topic I have spent much time thinking about in any detail, but after reading Misquoting Jesus by Bart Ehrman I was looking for something else by him and stumbled upon God's Problem at my local B&N last year.

This is a wonderful book that I highly recommend to anyone that wants to give more than lip service towards thinking about their beliefs. Essentially what Ehrman does is give an overview to Christian approaches to dealing with the theological problem of "if there is an all powerful loving god, then why do we suffer?" What are the biblical responses to this obvious question that occurs in all cultures. Further, and I think most importantly, Ehrman hammers the concept that biblical writers were writing for their society and people not a bunch of yahoo's in the 21st century. Ehrman lays out some of the issues these biblical texts were addressing.

Basically there are four biblical viewpoints presented to deal with the problem of suffering.

1. We suffer because we pissed off god.
2. We suffer because people can choose to do evil upon us.
3. We suffer because....I dunno and neither does anyone else.
4. We suffer because of the devil, but he's going to get his any millennium now.

Each of these is presented briefly and the relevant biblical verses presented. Now I realize that the bible says anything you bloody well want it to, if you simply look at it one verse at a time. However, Ehrman is dealing with more than specific verse but entire psalms, chapters, and books. For example the book of Job basically hits on suffering rationales #3 and #4.

Now as a good American, and I expect most other Western countries are similar, I fully embrace example #1. We suffer because we suck. If I hadn't done X, then Y wouldn't have happened. Now I am a fan of looking at how my actions lead to the consequences that happen to me. I think its important and I am a fan of personal responsibility. If I smoke a pack of cigarettes a day for the next 10 years, then I realize I am at much greater risk for lung cancer, emphysemia, or other respiratory-pulmonary ailment. However, people have lung cancer, emphsema, and other respiratory-pulmonary ailments and have never smoked a cigarette in their life. So what's going on? Are these people deserving of these ailments? Proponents of "why do we suffer reason #1" say yes. And of course its possible to justify this position. Someone with lung cancer worked in a mine or asbestos plant, they should have known better. (Note: I realize this is completely hypothetical, but it won't take you long to find someone who blames the victim for their suffering. Take the gang-related shooting of some innocent victim, the victim should have moved from their housing to someplace safer....how this is supposed to happen is not clear, but that doesn't stop the believer.) UPDATE: Look at Pat Robertson and Haiti.....douchebag

So you don't smoke or work in a field that puts you at greater risk, but you have lung cancer. WTF?!?!

Is it the red meat you ate?
Is it your political party affiliation?
Is it your choice in life-style that doesn't agree with mine?

Regardless, its your own fucking fault!

Unless it isnt, and that brings us to reason #2. "Its free will baby"

Remember free will? If not, its the reason why fundamentalists are ok with entire civilizations to be cast into hell because the people in said civilization didnt agree with the whole Jesus thing. Think Native Americans, or more recently Muslims. These people heard about Jesus from missionaries or other sources and chose to maintain the beliefs they grew up with. Thus, its ok for them to suffer eternally. Why your fat white ass that was brought up in a christian household basically gets a free ride but not theirs is not a question we like to deal with.

Anyway, back to free will. See some people, like Hitler, do some really fucked up shit. Maybe they are in league with the devil, who knows. Regardless, they cause misery upon you through no fault of your own. They cut you off in traffic, make you feel uncomfortable by loving someone of the same sex (male only, actually we're ok with female-female love because that's hot), or throw men, women, and children into ovens. Evil is out there, no doubt. Since god gave us free will, and thus a one way eternal ticket to hell, people can choose to do evil. UPDATE: See Pat Robertson is happy to blame the 2010 earthquake in Haiti on the actions of 1790s slave revolters, however, ask him why 2 year old children were crushed to death, or dehyrated and starved slowly and alone maybe next to the dead bodies of their parents and he will backpedal and say the children didn't deserve it, it was the great great great great great great great great great great grandparents fault for choosing to make a pact with the devil. If these ancestors hadn't chosen to do evil and embraced their life of slavery (a biblical concept), this wouldn't have happened. Regardless, shit happens because other people are evil.

Ok, so what if it isn't your own fault and you can't blame someone else?

Easy! Answer #3. Shit happens. Actually the biblical way this is framed isn't quite so vulgar, but it did predate this catch phrase by 3-4000 years. See, no one really understands why some shit happens, and some of these people are really smart. So you are left with the big old catch all of, well it happens we dont know why but remember to send in your check to your representative of your all loving all powerful all knowing god. Do we really need a better reason to leave the god concept by the wayside than the "shit happens" excuse? I mean, if a theologian is pulling this out of his/her ass and then telling me I should worship a god that allows shit to happen in order to make it seem like they don't exist and shit happens. Well, Im just going to complete the circuit and assume said god doesnt exist.

#4 is actually kind of cool. Although the current fundamentalists have screwed it all up. See in practice for normal people everywhere reasons #1 and #2 do not hold up. Sure you can find specific examples (Hitler) where you can say "Look that's #2!" But only the most dense, cannot easily come up with exceptions to #1 and #2. As noted above #3 is a big cop-out that really just allows someone with a better rationalized god to come in and fill the gap. Christians generally dont seem to like to think much beyond that of a stone age goat herder, so what can they do?

I got it! #4. Sure a lot of shit happens and that sucks, but don't you worry about it. God has got it all figured out. See shit happens and that sucks for you, but don't worry god is comin' and gonna make those fuckers pay. It'll be awesome, trust me. If not tomorrow, probably next week, definitely by next month, I mean we dont have to put up with this shit more than a year or so. Look god is busy, but I promise you before you die, god will avenge you, or your children, or grandchildren, or great-grandchildren, or your great great great great great great great great great great grandchildren. Unless you grew up in a different culture under threat from your own gods and didnt dare listen to the morons in the brown robes who didn't know not to eat the poison fruit, if you didn't listen to them and were enslaved, beaten, forced to toil under near starvation conditions for life, well that's your fault and if you tried to rectify the situation, then you'll have to be crushed to death under a pile of rubble. But don't worry white poor people, Im comin' real soon. So why is this cool? Well its not, until you realize the history. These concepts arose at a time of great suffering for the Jewish people (remember the bible was originally for them). Reasons #1 and #2 were not holding water, so that left #3. One can only tolerate #3 for the short term. So in order to keep the sheep in line, let's start discussing the possibility of #4. Hmm, this seems to be working. YEAH! #4!!!11!eleventy!!!11! Now just keep those donations coming, because we have a lot of work to do before god comes back for payback. This is one of the best marketing campaigns ever, rivaled only by the don't worry about cigarettes, you'll be cool campaign.

Ehrman is not as rancid as I am, but the argument is about the same. See for yourself and think about it. This is a real issue and a real problem religious folks have. You want us to believe in an all powerful, all loving god. Please explain evil.




H/T einekleinenachtblog for the video

Day7 the last of Avenged Sevenfold as we know it

Anyone paying the least bit of attention and follows Avenged Sevenfold already knows what this song is...


without the crowd noise

Day 5 of the Jim Sullivan tribute


Did I really like Avenged Sevenfold this much?
Not really, just seemed like a good idea at the time and I do enjoy their music and realize that it will necessarily be different in the future.